These are fantastic pants and very well constructed. I think the padding can be upgraded a bit, but having the zippers makes that an easy upgrade, though they are very warm. The side zippers are a bit of a concern for me because they don't seem heavy-duty, though if they were, they'd be more noticeable. I really like these pants, and they feel good for fall or cooler night rides.Note: You have to hand wash these pants. I missed that point when I bought them, and it's not an issue, but I wanted to make sure to call it out again. Because of the inside fabric and zippers, you'd destroy these in the wash/dryer.I dig Wicked Stock. I've bought a few things from them, and they seem dialed in, which is nice.